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0000427Cinelerra-GG[All Projects] Bugpublic2020-05-30 09:16
ReporterIgorBeg Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
Platformx64OSLinux-UbuntuStudioOS Version16.04
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000427: About Nested clips
DescriptionNow, the Nested clips are in Media bin.

Nested clips in Media bin do not work for the UserBin. You can not use UserBin for Nested clip: if you drag&drop a Nested clip from Media to a new MediaUserBin you do not see the thumbnail or its name in the right side of the Resources window (but in the UserBin filter you can see the name in the Value field).

When a Proxy for the Nested clip is created (Proxies are created in "/home/user/Videos/" path) it is displayed in Proxy bin. If you try to drag&drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to the Viewer/Compositor/Timeline it doesn't work. That is really strange.

Unfortunately, since Cin-20191031 version (if I remember correctly), my workaround for "Nested and Proxy" in Clip bin doesn't work anymore. Is there a possibility to have the Nested clip in Clip bin again? The good thing about Clip bin is that it works fine for Proxy and not Proxy clips,... and for ClipUserBin. These containers do not care if the clip comes from the proxy or not (from the user's point of view).

Thank you.
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IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-05-30 09:16

reporter   ~0003523

Okay Phyllis! There are other things, together 0000430 and 0000440 issues, but it is better a step at a time.
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2020-05-30 01:11

manager   ~0003519

@IgorBed
The steps you outlined are better for me. I do not need a screencast, because that is much harder for me.
IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-05-29 20:35

reporter   ~0003517

Okay for "This is the problem that was fixed".
For "I am still looking for an earlier version that matches how it used to work" I try to explain step by step with Cin_20200528(20200430) vs Cin_20191031.

1. Cin_20200528(20200430)
1.a Select an area with I-beam on the Timeline.
1.b Click on "To clip" icon in main window. Now you can see the clip in Clip bin.
1.c In Clip bin, use RMB on the clip and choose "Nest to Media". Now the clip is Nested and you can see it in Media bin. (Clip is "deleted" from Clip bin).
1.d
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Media bin to Timeline: OK.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Media bin to Timeline through the Compositor: OK.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Media bin to Timeline through the Viewer with Splice (v) or Overwrite (b). You can see NO Nested clip but the single clip inside the Nested: for me it is wrong.
1.e Create Proxy. File is created and you can see its proxy clip in Proxy bin.
1.f
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to Timeline: NO possible.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to Compositor: NO possible.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to Viewer: NO possible.

2. Cin_20191031
2.a Select an area with I-beam on the Timeline.
2.b Click on "To clip" icon in main window. Now you can see the clip in Clip bin.
2.c In Clip bin, use RMB on the clip and choose "Nest". Now the clip is Nested and you can see it in Cip bin with the name Nested. (And there is a kind of clone in Media bin).
2.d
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Media bin to Timeline: OK.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Media bin to Timeline through the Compositor: OK.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Media bin to Timeline through the Viewer with Splice (v) or Overwrite (b): OK.
2.e Create Proxy. File is created and you can see its proxy clip in Proxy bin. To note that the Nested clip in Clip bin is still there: good.
2.f
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to Timeline: NO possible.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to Compositor: NO possible.
- Drag & drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to Viewer: NO possible.
BUT, now you can use the Nested clip in Clip bin like in 2.d point because clips in Clip bin are special clips and it doesn't matter if Proxy is enabled or not.
It is better that Nested clip stay in Clip bin. More advantages there are, I think.

If you want I can make a screencast to show these steps but, if you needed, I will do tomorrow. Sorry. And thanks!
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2020-05-29 18:32

manager   ~0003515

This is the problem that was fixed: "if you drag&drop a Nested clip from Media to a new MediaUserBin you do not see the thumbnail or its name in the right side of the Resources window".

The fix that went in allowed for dragging a Nested clip from Media to a MediaUserBin (not a CLIP User Bin) because it is now Media. The fix shows that you now see the thumbnail or its name in the right side of the Resources window.

Currently anything in the Media folder can only be dragged to the MediaUserBin (which includes Nested clips because they are in the Media folder). Likewise what is in the Clip folder can only be dragged to the ClipUserBin and not the MediaUserBin.

I am still looking for an earlier version that matches how it used to work.
IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-05-28 10:02

reporter   ~0003492

About:
When a Proxy for the Nested clip is created (Proxies are created in "/home/user/Videos/" path) it is displayed in Proxy bin. If you try to drag&drop the Nested clip from Proxy bin to the Viewer/Compositor/Timeline it doesn't work. That is really strange.

I am sorry, I don't see any changes. May be that you are referring to something else.

Cin_version by git: Thu, 28 May 2020 00:27:06 +0200 (16:27 -0600)
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2020-05-28 03:15

manager   ~0003486

A modification was checked into GIT that fixes at least 1 problem with nested clips per GG. I have not time to check this myself with proxy but will try to do so tomorrow. Just wanted to let you know about the checkin.
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2020-05-12 00:33

manager   ~0003408

I will have to look at this tomorrow to fully understand where it went wrong.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2020-05-11 12:23 IgorBeg New Issue
2020-05-12 00:33 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0003408
2020-05-28 03:15 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0003486
2020-05-28 10:02 IgorBeg Note Added: 0003492
2020-05-29 18:32 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0003515
2020-05-29 20:35 IgorBeg Note Added: 0003517
2020-05-30 01:11 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0003519
2020-05-30 09:16 IgorBeg Note Added: 0003523