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0000315Cinelerra-GG[All Projects] Featurepublic2020-10-05 12:12
ReporterAndrea_Paz Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version2019-08 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000315: Batch render
DescriptionMany suggestion from user D. Quinton.


Whenever I try batch rendering I get this error:

" 2 job EDLs do not match session edl "

Would it be easier to have an option in the Render window, 'Save to batch'? Meaning that each project can be edited and then stacked up together in a list of EDL's to render at a later time, all together? This is the practice of Kdenlive render dialogue.

Although batch rendering would fail on things like frame-rate - would need a warning when adding to batch list.
TagsFeature request

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IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-10-05 12:12

reporter   ~0004182

As said before by me the steps are...
1. Click on New button.
2. set the "EDL Path", where your first project (filename.XML) is.
3. set the "Output path", with its parameters (codec, bitrate, and so on).
4. repeat from point 1 for all your projects.

If you have done 3 batch (you are seeing 3 rows) you can modify a row selecting that row (highlight it) and changing the fields on the top of the window ("Output path", FileFormat, "EDL Path:", and so on) will update the "batch" row.
Andrea_Paz

Andrea_Paz

2020-10-05 11:50

updater   ~0004179

I mean: after creating a batch (test1) I click on "New". Now you create a new line (selected in blue) in "Batches to render" that takes the path values that were already set for batch 1. We must then modify the fields "EDL path" and "Output path" to set the second batch (test 2); and so on. What I propose is that when you click on "New" the fields "EDL path" and "Outèut path" are automatically cleared (the same happens, consequently, also in "Batch to render"). So we are forced to introduce the new batch 2 paths and the danger of overlaps and interference with batch 1 paths disappear.
See the photomontage.

"Honestly, how does anyone use it? Make a batch item, prepare to make another and the first item's paths change!"
I don't understand, to me the line of batch 1 remains unchanged when I create (with "New") and set (changing the 2 paths) the line of batch 2.

batch.jpg (43,213 bytes)
batch.jpg (43,213 bytes)
quintao

quintao

2020-10-05 10:20

reporter   ~0004178

Andrea wrote: when you click on New, you should clean up the paths previously set leaving them empty
You mean that the batch render window clears them after hitting New?

One way would be to draw a line under the path fields - once a batch item is made, fiddling in the two fields won't affect the item. Only setting format will affect items added.
If the paths are wrong, remove it and add it again.

Honestly, how does anyone use it? Make a batch item, prepare to make another and the first item's paths change!
Andrea_Paz

Andrea_Paz

2020-10-05 07:25

updater   ~0004177

The clearest and simplest method (fail-safe), for me, would be that when you click on New, you should clean up the paths previously set leaving them empty (as well as in Batches to render). So the user sees the lack and MUST enter new paths for the second batch, etc. The problem is that we have to use the file manager (magnifier) every time to find the new paths, even in the case of nearby locations and similar names (which only vary in the numbers, for example). This increases the time and makes the setting more boring. A compromise could be to empty only EDL Path and remember Output path instead.
IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-10-03 12:12

reporter   ~0004132

quintao wrote: I think it would be helpful that the output file and EDL source do not change once added to list.
I could agree with you but I think that Developers have done in this way to be able changing the settings without add another button, for example an "Edit" button. So, the highlighted item may be changed on the fly (it is good and bad).

About your
bad file format: /media/D2/my_vid/batchtest1.mp4

Could it be a strange settings in mp4 format/code file?
quintao

quintao

2020-10-03 10:52

reporter   ~0004126

Well there's a problem, if I make one batch item, and then edit the file name and EDL name, the item just added gets altered - so initially it was test1, but then when I add the test2 EDL then the first item becomes test2 as well. (See 1st screenshot)

So what I did was click New three times and then highlight items 2 and 3 to set their output names (see 2nd screenshot)

I think it would be helpful that the output file and EDL source do not change once added to list.

Even with only one EDL loaded I get a bad format error (3rd screenshot)

Andrea_Paz

Andrea_Paz

2020-10-02 15:57

updater   ~0004116

As IgorBeg said, I also think the error is to set EDL path and Output path before clicking on New. The manual is unclear in my opinion. However often the cause of that error is the overlapping of "EDL path" and/or "Output path" of one batch (test1.xml and test1.mp4) with those of another batch. (test2.xml and test2.mp4, etc).
IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-10-02 11:49

reporter   ~0004109

It might be a bug but...
You can disable the "Warn if jobs/session mismatched" option. I do so.
I don't know if that option compare the date of the ".xml" with the current date of the system.
If it can help, take a look at https://streamable.com/vhv32k

Steps:
1. Click on New button.
2. set the "EDL Path", where your first project (filename.XML) is.
3. set the "Output path", with its parameters (codec, bitrate, and so on).
4. repeat from point 1 for all your projects.

Note:
When you create a new batch, the new batch take the EDL name from "EDL Path:" entry field; the same for the "Output path:" entry field.
So you must before click on New button and then to set the "EDL Path" and "Output path" with its parameters (codec, bitrate, and so on).


Check that...
- your projects NOT HAVE In Point and Out Point set in the Timeline
- the cursor on the Timeline to be in the home position.
(those "issues" should have been resolved but I don't remember, sorry)
quintao

quintao

2020-10-02 10:56

reporter   ~0004104

Ok, here's what I did..

1. make three test projects, save as /directory/test1.xml, /directory/test2.xml, /directory/test3.xml
2. in batch render, set output file name to test1.mp4 and set EDL to /directory/test1.xml
3, check format and click New
4. do same for test2.xml and test3.xml
5. resulting in list with three EDL's to process
6. hit start

And before now I always had an error " 2 job EDLs do not match session edl "
But just now it rendered one, and not the others
error: bad file format
IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2020-10-02 08:35

reporter   ~0004102

quintao wrote: "Does that mean if I want to render three projects to h264 @ 2Mbps, they all need to be in one EDL? "
No! You can open the "Batch Render... window" and to do what you wrote:
by quintao: I would open the batch render tool here and select a project, give it an output name and format, add it to the list, select another project....

Can you tell me (us) what steps you do, please?
quintao

quintao

2020-10-02 06:01

reporter   ~0004098

Well, I still have this warning message when I try to make a batch render - obviously because I haven't worked out how to use it!

The user manual says the batch renderer requires a (one) separate project file (xml) for every batch.

Does that mean if I want to render three projects to h264 @ 2Mbps, they all need to be in one EDL?
If so, how can many projects be saved as one EDL?

From experience with other software, I would open the batch render tool here and select a project, give it an output name and format, add it to the list, select another project....
But CinGG has functionality in the batch render tool that is different to this logic - and very good too, in that it allows rendering of a project in many formats etc.

So I am stuck with what EDL I should use for a batch so that the "mismatch" warning does not appear. Surely the batch has nothing to do with the session - which might be an empty instance of Cin.

Any help would be appreciated, cheers

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2019-10-03 19:45 Andrea_Paz New Issue
2019-10-03 19:45 Andrea_Paz Tag Attached: Feature request
2020-10-02 06:01 quintao Note Added: 0004098
2020-10-02 08:35 IgorBeg Note Added: 0004102
2020-10-02 10:56 quintao Note Added: 0004104
2020-10-02 11:49 IgorBeg Note Added: 0004109
2020-10-02 15:57 Andrea_Paz Note Added: 0004116
2020-10-03 10:52 quintao File Added: screenshot-2020-10-03-10-40-11.png
2020-10-03 10:52 quintao File Added: screenshot-2020-10-03-10-47-57.png
2020-10-03 10:52 quintao File Added: screenshot-2020-10-03-10-51-23.png
2020-10-03 10:52 quintao Note Added: 0004126
2020-10-03 12:12 IgorBeg Note Added: 0004132
2020-10-05 07:25 Andrea_Paz Note Added: 0004177
2020-10-05 10:20 quintao Note Added: 0004178
2020-10-05 11:50 Andrea_Paz File Added: batch.jpg
2020-10-05 11:50 Andrea_Paz Note Added: 0004179
2020-10-05 12:12 IgorBeg Note Added: 0004182