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0000237Cinelerra-GG[All Projects] Featurepublic2019-08-09 09:50
ReporterOlafAssigned Togoodguy 
PrioritynormalSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
Status assignedResolutionopen 
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0000237: Adjustable background color of the compositor
DescriptionCompositor background is black and the color cannot be adjusted. This is not helpful if you want to crop videos with black borders, for example. In general, a clear colour separation of window area and video is only an advantage. Setting the background is one of the basic features, even Kdenlive can do it.
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Olaf

Olaf

2019-08-09 09:50

reporter   ~0002006

Good work so far in the short time! There is apparently still time to final completion, you can see for yourself what's lacking.

In the meantime I put the bright frame up for discussion, which lies on the edges of the picture, thus covering it and preventing exact working in the edge area.
Is this frame necessary for the still image (without switched on tools like camera, projector or cutting)?
Should the frame, if still necessary at all, not border the still image instead of lying on it?
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2019-08-05 01:09

manager   ~0001999

Last edited: 2019-08-05 01:12

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The latest GIT checkin includes changing the Compositor Canvas background color also. There is still more work to do to verify all 90 some places where vframe is being used, so do not hesitate to report missed spots or bugs as it will move things along a lot faster to an acceptable conclusion. The Canvas, as always, does not get rendered (at least not in my cases).

Olaf

Olaf

2019-07-31 09:33

reporter   ~0001996

Thx PhyllisSmith! Here's the corrected description of the feature request that didn't seem to do justice to the summary of the request before, see above, changes and priority highlighted with asterisks:

Compositor background *complete with the so-called Canvas* is black and the color cannot be adjusted. This is not helpful if you want to crop videos with black borders, for example. In general, *a clear colour separation of window area (Canvas) and video is only an advantage*. Setting the background *- especially the canvas -* is one of the basic features, even Kdenlive can do it.

I apologize for my linguistic inadequacies and the additional work that may result from them.
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2019-07-30 20:01

manager   ~0001995

The black area of the Compositor that exceeds the project dimensions is the Canvas -- it is part of the Pixmap -- and is not rendered.

A error similar to what IgorB demo-ed is being fixed, but of course there could be more.
Olaf

Olaf

2019-07-30 12:43

reporter   ~0001994

Learning question: What do you call the (black) area of the Compositor that exceeds the project dimensions?

In addition, the buttons are shifted, one is almost covered.

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IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2019-07-30 12:01

reporter   ~0001992

I only did a few quickly tests with Cin-Ub16-20190730.
IMHO for the monthly builds I would use the 20190724 version because it is more tested.
Further tests are required for the latest invasive mod. Sorry.

Take a look please:
https://streamable.com/pxqcx
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2019-07-29 17:44

manager   ~0001990

A mod has been checked into GIT to include this feature. I hope it covers what is expected, but am not sure. A Ubuntu 16 build is at: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-ub16-x86_64-static.txz

A demo is provided of how to use it at: https://streamable.com/no6oz

Testing is appreciated because the monthly builds will be coming up on Wednesday AND because there were about 90 places in the code that are affected by "clear vframe".
Sam

Sam

2019-07-24 11:16

administrator   ~0001981

I would wish for my own alignment lines. PP has such a feature that is very handy when you want to align objects like text or even your own images that I want to show.
https://streamable.com/l460f
Sam

Sam

2019-07-24 10:51

administrator   ~0001980

Last edited: 2019-07-24 10:52

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1) Any suggestions of where to pick this color? Settings->Preferences, Appearance by "Highlighting Inversion Color" and then you always have that?

A good choice, at this point it fits and the setting can be changed at any time like anything else that is adjustable there. It would also be advantageous if the selected color is immediately visible, even without restarting.
--> I agree with Olaf.

2) Or does it have to be Session based?

With very few exceptions, I see no reason for this, so no, see also answer above.
--> same here.

3) Will you want the Color Picker involved?

I want to be able to determine a color that is clearly different from the video image, so that it can be captured by the eye in size and position at any time without tools such as superimposed frames. If the Color Picker can help and the user is no longer dependent on external programs such as kcolorchooser then yes. (Sorry Igor, very few users can remember the RGB colour code.)
--> I would prefer a Color Picker

4) Should there be another tool added to the Compositor window?

I'm not sure I understand the question correctly. Does this mean something like what is described under no. 0000238?

Something like that in Kdenlive:
https://streamable.com/a338p

or like my photomontage:

I find the solution via the FFmpeg "law of thirds" plugin too cumbersome.



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Olaf

Olaf

2019-07-24 08:44

reporter   ~0001979

Hi Leute! I'm happy for the project that the request has found a hearing.

1) Any suggestions of where to pick this color? Settings->Preferences, Appearance by "Highlighting Inversion Color" and then you always have that?

A good choice, at this point it fits and the setting can be changed at any time like anything else that is adjustable there. It would also be advantageous if the selected color is immediately visible, even without restarting.

2) Or does it have to be Session based?

With very few exceptions, I see no reason for this, so no, see also answer above.

3) Will you want the Color Picker involved?

I want to be able to determine a color that is clearly different from the video image, so that it can be captured by the eye in size and position at any time without tools such as superimposed frames. If the Color Picker can help and the user is no longer dependent on external programs such as kcolorchooser then yes. (Sorry Igor, very few users can remember the RGB colour code.)

4) Should there be another tool added to the Compositor window?

I'm not sure I understand the question correctly. Does this mean something like what is described under no. 0000238?
IgorBeg

IgorBeg

2019-07-24 07:57

reporter   ~0001978

Waiting for Olaf… (and the others)

IMHO I prefer this option (like 0000247) were in Preferences>Appearance: a new option, for example “Background color for Compositor” and you always have that, until you change again.
Default is #000000 (black), of course. And I would not use color picker but only “rrggbb” code like it is in "Highlighting Inversion Color".
PhyllisSmith

PhyllisSmith

2019-07-24 01:24

manager   ~0001975

Any suggestions of where to pick this color?
- Settings->Preferences, Appearance by "Highlighting Inversion Color" and then you always have that?
- Or does it have to be Session based?
- Will you want the Color Picker involved?
- Should there be another tool added to the Compositor window?

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2019-06-04 11:19 Olaf New Issue
2019-06-04 11:19 Olaf Tag Attached: Compositor
2019-07-24 01:24 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0001975
2019-07-24 07:57 IgorBeg Note Added: 0001978
2019-07-24 08:44 Olaf Note Added: 0001979
2019-07-24 10:51 Sam File Added: Overlay-lines_03.jpg
2019-07-24 10:51 Sam Note Added: 0001980
2019-07-24 10:52 Sam Note Edited: 0001980 View Revisions
2019-07-24 11:16 Sam Note Added: 0001981
2019-07-29 17:44 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0001990
2019-07-30 03:26 PhyllisSmith Assigned To => goodguy
2019-07-30 03:26 PhyllisSmith Status new => assigned
2019-07-30 12:01 IgorBeg Note Added: 0001992
2019-07-30 12:43 Olaf File Added: babel.png
2019-07-30 12:43 Olaf Note Added: 0001994
2019-07-30 20:01 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0001995
2019-07-31 09:33 Olaf Note Added: 0001996
2019-08-05 01:09 PhyllisSmith Note Added: 0001999
2019-08-05 01:12 PhyllisSmith Note Edited: 0001999 View Revisions
2019-08-09 09:50 Olaf Note Added: 0002006